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NGC 1269

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Digitized Sky Survey (DSS) Image Information for  NGC 1269
DSS Acknowledgement ,  DSS Copyright Notice DSS Image Generation:  1st Generation DSS Image
Image Center (2000):  03h 17m 18.3s; -41º 06' 26"Image File Name:  n1269.jpg
Image Size (arcminutes):  20' x 20'Image Size (pixels):  353 x 353
Original NGC Catalogue Data for  NGC 1269
General Catalogue Designation:  670William Herschel Designation:  ...
John Herschel Designation:  2518Other Observers:  ...
Right Ascension (Equinox 1860):  03h 09m 42sAnnual RA Precession (Equinox 1880):  +2.20s
North Polar Declination (Equinox 1860):  131° 36.4'Annual DEC Precession (Equinox 1880):  -13.5"
Summary Description:  vB, R, gmbM
Notes:  Comments:  
Discovered by:  John Frederick William Herschel (1792 - 1871)Year of Discovery:  1836
Telescope Aperture (Inches):  18.7Telescope Type:  Reflector
Understanding the 'Summary Description':  Summary Description Abbreviations List
Contemporary/Current Data for  NGC 1269
Right Ascension (2000):  03h 17m 18.3sDeclination (2000):  -41º 06' 26"
Object Type:  GalaxyObject Classification:  SB(r:)0-a
Constellation:  EridanusPosition Angle:  72 °
Visual Magnitude:  8.5Surface Brightness:  13.4
Blue Magnitude:  9.4Object Size:  11.1'X10.1'
Also Cataloged As:  NGC 1291, ESO 301-G002, MCG-07-07-008, h 2518, GC 670,
h 2521, GC 685, AM 0315-411, PGC 12209
Catalogue Notes:  ---------------
Book / Chart References for NGC 1269
Luginbuhl & Skiff (Page):  ---Burnham's (Volume : Page):  ------
Uranometria 2000:  390Herald-Bobroff Astroatlas:  C-72,C-73,C-90,C-91
Microsky:  N/AGSC Small Region Number:  7564
POSS Blue Plate #:  N/APOSS Red Plate #:  N/A
Database Update Level: 2 (Complete)
Contemporary Visual Observation(s) for NGC 1269
NGC 1269 = N1291 = E301-002 = MCG -07-07-008 = PGC 12209
03 17 18.2 -41 06 26

See observing notes for N1291.

Discovered by JH (h2518) on the same night as N1291!  Strangely, the objects are 
given identical declinations and almost identical descriptions!  Could he have 
reobserved the same object unknowingly?

In Mon. Not, Vol 62, p469, Innes comments "not visible in the 7-inch.  This is 
perhaps the same as NGC 1291, observed by h on the same night.  H gives for the 
latter exactly the same declination and description as for h2518."  Listed as 
nonexistent by Carlson and repeated in RNGC.

- by Steve Gottlieb

Historical Research Notes / Correction for NGC 1269
NGC 1269 = NGC 1291.  Though JH claims to have seen them on the same night (1 
November 1836), I think that he has some mistake in his records.  His data and
description for NGC 1269 are identical to those for NGC 1291 on that night 
with two exceptions.  First, the RAs differ by 2 minutes 34 seconds; and 
second, he adds a diameter to his description of N1291 (90 arcsec), while 
N1269 has none.  Otherwise, the data are the same:  NPDs 131d 43m 11s, and
descriptions "vB, R, gmbM (hazy)."

He has two observations of N1291 (on the second night, he called it a 
"mottled, but not resolved" globular cluster).  His RAs for the two nights
differ by 10 seconds, and he suggests that one is in error.  Not knowing which
one, he simply took the mean value and used that for GC.  The galaxy is so
large that both positions fall within the image.

The identity was first suggested by Robert Innes in a note in Monthly Notices
62, 468, 1902.  He could not find N1269, but had no trouble seeing N1291.
Dreyer, in his IC2 Note, did not go so far as to repeat the supposition of
identity, but succintly summarizes the other evidence.

I don't think there can be any question of the identity of the two numbers --
though without seeing JH's observing logs for that first November night of
1836, I of course cannot say this with utter certainty.
 - Dr. Harold G. Corwin, Jr.
Correction Disclaimer
As with all corrections to the NGC and IC Catalogues, there is a certain margin
for error, even though the evidence supporting the correction may be strong and
compelling. It is with this in mind that we ask the user to use this information
as 'Most Probable', but never to assume the correction is 'Absolute'.  All
published corrections are based on an exhaustive 'paper chase' of the historical
record back to the original discoverer's published notes/papers, and are
therefore based upon the historical accuracy (or inaccuracy) of those particular
notes/papers. In short, Caveat Emptor! - Robert E. Erdmann, Jr.
Data Sources Used to research NGC 1269
[NGC] New General Catalogue / [IC] Index Catalogue (Dreyer - 1888, 1895, 1908)
[ESO] The ESO Uppsala Survey of the ESO(B) Atlas (Lauberts - 1982)
[RE-NGCDDB] NGC Discoverer's Database (Erdmann 1990 - 2006)
[OHCDSO] Observing Handbook and Catalog of Deep-Sky Objects (Luginbuhl & Skiff - 1990)
[MCG] Morphological Catalog of Galaxies (Vorontsov-Velyaminov et al - 1962 thru 1968)
[SGC] Southern Galaxy Catalog (Corwin - 1985)
[RE-AZDB] The Arizona Database®, V15.5 (Erdmann - 1987 thru 2006)
[HC-PPL] NGC/IC Accurate Positions List Database (Corwin - 1996 thru 2006)
[SG-NGCO] NGC/IC Observations Database (Gottlieb - 1998 thru 2006)
[PGC] Principle Galaxy Catalog (Paturel et al. - 1989, 2003)
[DSS] Digitized Sky Survey - 1st (102 CD-ROM) and 2nd (Web Site) Generation (STScI - 1994)
[NED] NASA's Extragalactic Database (NED) located at http://nedwww.ipac.caltech.edu/

Additional Notes
1st generation images were generated from the 102 CD-ROM version of the Digitized Sky Survey (DSS)
2nd generation images were generated at the DSS web site located at http://archive.stsci.edu/cgi-bin/dsswin
Luginbuhl & Skiff page numbers are from 'Observing Handbook and Catalogue of Deep-Sky Objects' by Christian B. Luginbuhl and Brian A. Skiff, produced by Cambridge University Press
Burnham's refers to 'Burnham's Celestial Handbook' in three volumes produced by Dover Publications, Inc.
Uranometria 2000 chart numbers are for those printings authored by Tirion, Rappaport & Lovi, and are not for the most recent printings authored by Tirion, Rappaport & Remaklus in which the charts were re-numbered, all of which were and/or are produced by Willmann-Bell, Inc.
The Herald-Bobroff Astroatlas is by D. Herald and P. Bobroff of Canberra, Australia and is produced by HB2000 Publications
Microsky® is the microfiche rendition of the Palomar Observatory Sky Survey (POSS) produced by Deen Publications (P.O. Box 867088; Plano Texas 75086)
POSS refers to the Palomar Observatory Sky Survey produced by The National Geographic Society in conjunction with The California Institute of Technology
All DSS image annotation was performed by Robert E. Erdmann, Jr., and is ©Copyright 1996 through 2008 by Robert E. Erdmann, Jr. - All rights reserved
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Contemporary/Current Data for this object was hand collected and entered from the data sources listed in the "Data Sources Used" section of this table above.- Robert E. Erdmann, Jr.


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